Make the Best Decision Forward!

[00:00:00] Speaker A: I swear I wish I could carry around one of the Men in Black memory erasers. I want to know what a golfer's handicap would be if they could zap their short term memory after every shot. It would be incredible if you could just look at your ball and say, ooh, here's my ball. What should I do with it now? And you just look out there and you're like, oh, I see fairway. I think I'll try to hit it there from here. That's a good idea. You wouldn't think about what else had happened before that, you know. [00:00:22] Speaker B: Right. [00:00:22] Speaker A: Well. [00:00:23] Speaker B: And that's. And that's exactly right. Like, that's, that's one of the things and that's what I think the whole points game concept that I'm trying to come up with is, is that's what it does, is it says what's best decision you can make from here forward. [00:00:36] Speaker C: So I got a question. So, you know, if you're, you know, you play, you know, once or twice a month, you know, and you know, you, you and Tony kind of have, you know, what clubs you hit the best. But you know, you guys have talked about, you know, just knowing which clubs you hit the best. And you know, how do you do that when, you know, you're not, you know, you don't have any, you're just at a driving range, you know, and how you just go by feel, you're like, okay, these three irons I feel good with. Instead of just grabbing what maybe the length, what would it would call for, you know, what are your. Because when you were, when you were talking 70% rule, I was also thinking like a step three of like, okay, what's a club here that I can hit pretty well 70% of the time? [00:01:30] Speaker B: Yeah. So what I would say is first if you've only played twice in two years or whatever the case may be, there is no club that you're comfortable with. There is no club like, like. And this is the problem with golfers. And I don't know why the hell golfers do this to themselves. But they don't play, they don't touch the clubs five or six months at a time. And then they get all pissed off when they don't break 90 or whatever. It's like, there's no, nothing else can you do in life where you put that much pressure on it. So I think here's the first thing most of the population needs to do is have a lot more respect for just how challenging this game is. Like, it is no Joke. Like, this is one of the most challenging things you could ever choose to do in your life. Like, and that's the beauty. [00:02:20] Speaker A: Tony. I was going to try to talk Mike and play him more. Let's not scare him away. [00:02:25] Speaker B: I'll get there. Just let me do my thing, man. Let me do my thing. I'm trying to set him up to understand that this is literally one of the most challenging things you could choose to do. Give me a basketball. I shoot a basketball maybe once a year now. Give me a basketball and give me 30 minutes, and I will be back to making shots again. Right. Like, it's not that complicated. I'll never forget how to dribble a ball. You know, I'm not going to be as skilled as I once was when I was practicing every day. But it's not that complicated. Give me a football with my son and my daughter in the side yard, and I'm going to throw it to him with really good accuracy. Okay. And I don't. I was never a high school quarterback or anything like that. Never even played football, but I know how to throw and move my body. You give someone a golf club who hasn't played in two like Garrett? I hadn't swung a club since we went to the trifecta. I was two weeks since I played, and I stood up over in the first tee, and I was like, man, what the heck? This feels so foreign right now. Let alone you take two years off or you play once every three months when the weather's nice with your buddies, of course, it's going to be hard. So, anyway, long story short, what I would recommend is go to the driving range, hit some clubs, and say, okay, which one just feels the best? Which one do I have the best success with? And just figure out, how far does that go? [00:03:39] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:03:39] Speaker B: On average, when you hit it good, you're nine iron, it might be 120 yards. Cool. Put that one in the bag. Find another club that you really like. The next one might be 160 yards, but at least now you have a range, 120 to 160. And then you can navigate the golf course as best you can with a shot that goes somewhere around 150, somewhere around 110, somewhere around 200. Even if you just take four or five clubs, if you're playing tee boxes that are appropriate to your skill level, you could still figure out a way to have some fun. [00:04:11] Speaker C: Yeah, makes sense. [00:04:13] Speaker B: Like, if I tell you, hey, Mike. Hey, Mike, you've got a par four here. It's 350 yards. Cool. Let's break this down into manageable sections. What's your favorite club? How far does it go? It's my nine iron. It goes 130 yards. Cool. Hit that. But it's 400 yard par three. A 350 yard per three. I'm supposed to get on two. Screw that. Just hit this club and get it in play. Yeah. Boom. You hit it in play. And that felt great. Awesome. Hey, Mike, you've got 200 yards to get to the green, but there's a bunker in front of the green and the pins over the bunker. Hit that nine iron again out there to the left. Okay, Click. Hey, Mike, you got 40 yards to get on the green. How about you just chip that nine iron over there to the left side? Cool. Now you got two putts, and you made a bogey with no stress. You hit this favorite club you had. Whatever. Or I said take this driver out. There's out of bounds left, there's water. Right. It's a 350 yard par 4, top fin, fat slice, hook into the water. Now you're hitting three from the tee again. Or you're dropping somewhere. [00:05:15] Speaker A: Yes. [00:05:15] Speaker B: And now you're like, oh, I've got to get it all back right now. I've got to put it on the green to four feet so I can try to save a bogey. Right. You see what I'm saying? [00:05:22] Speaker C: That's exactly right. [00:05:23] Speaker A: So I'm. [00:05:24] Speaker C: I'm always. I'm always the last one to pull something out of the bag because I'm looking to see what everybody. Oh, everybody's pulling the one wood here. [00:05:31] Speaker A: Okay. [00:05:31] Speaker C: People pulling the. The three. And I always, you know, if people are grabbing the eight, I'll grab a seven. Right? Because I'm assuming I'm gonna need a little extra. And that's usually. That's what I do. I'm just kind of waiting to see. [00:05:48] Speaker B: He's a baghawk. [00:05:50] Speaker C: Yeah, my neighbor last week. My neighbor's like, hey, what? You know, the one guy's got the rangefinder. How far out are we? How far out are we? And I'm like. And he's like, yeah, I think I'm gonna grab this. Okay. [00:06:03] Speaker B: All right. [00:06:03] Speaker C: That sounds good too. You're gonna grab the six, I'll grab my five. It sounds great. [00:06:10] Speaker A: So, Tony, me and you. Me and you hit the ball very, very close in distance. I think. Overall, I don't think I can remember two times in 10 rounds that I've asked you what you hit or You've asked me what I hit. Like we. I don't give a. I don't care what you're hitting. I know what I'm hitting. You know what I mean? [00:06:31] Speaker B: You don't know what my target is. You don't know what my intention is. I mean we might, if we plan [00:06:35] Speaker A: to hit it maybe in the, in the two, man, we might have talked through it a little bit and almost like a player caddy type of conversation of like, what do you think in here? That kind of. But that's because we're teammates. But I mean, I think a couple things to Mike's question with. For me, I don't feel like there's one club that I just love or one club that I just really hate. If you've worked on your clubs and you've, you know, if I've got a club I really don't like, I'm going to try to replace it or work on it or figure out what's wrong with it and you know, whatever. But I did tell Tony that I've noticed a huge drop off in accuracy with the four iron and then another slight drop off to the two iron and then, you know, it just raw yardage offline. You know, I'm. I'm usually within about 15 yards of the target up to the five iron. But with the four iron, man, that thing can get 30 yards left in a hurry or 25 yards right in a hurry. So that plays into my decision a little bit on the golf course. I told Tony the other day when I hit that five iron on the par three that I ended up in the hazard, I probably could have gone four iron anyway. As far as the distance goes of that hole, I was almost positive I wasn't going to get pin high with the five iron. But. But I was pretty confident I would get it over the hazard. And because I just wasn't as confident being able to control the four iron as I am the five, I know that's like a cutoff for me. So that plays into my strategy a little bit now. It turned out to totally backfire. Cause when the wind shifted, five iron wasn't enough club. But it's not even necessarily. I've got one club now. For a while there I was playing without an eight iron. Boy, that changed. That was one club I really didn't like. I hated 165 yards, you know, well, [00:08:07] Speaker B: but again too like the whole caveat to this is you are playing a 73 rating golf course from the tips in 15 mile an hour. Wind. It's a completely different conversation for you than it is for me talking to Mike about what he's trying to do. [00:08:20] Speaker C: Right? [00:08:21] Speaker A: That's right. [00:08:21] Speaker B: Mike's not going to have to carry the ball 200. Like that shot we played. It was really a 240 yard shot. That's why you were so short, because the wind was actually into and the COVID was at least 200, right? So it's like that, that I played that, that exact same hole in a club championship one time. I hit, I think five wood and I didn't cover because the wind was blowing so hard. Like no one else is doing that. You know what I mean? No one else is playing that, that hole that way. So it's a completely different conversation. And that's why Mike wouldn't be playing that hole from that distance. Because he doesn't have that skill, that capacity to say, this is a 200 yard force carry, I gotta hit this. If. If you have to get into a situation as a golfer and you don't have a club to hit the shot, you're playing the wrong tee boxes for your skill. [00:09:11] Speaker A: One of the worst things I think for golfers, and you may have said this before, Tony, but I think one of the worst things for golfers is putting par on the scorecard. Because, you know, when we were talking about bowling last time, it's funny, when I was bowling like a 130 or 150 or once, I didn't know if that was any good or not. I knew 300 was perfect, but I had no idea what good was in bowling. I think I may have actually googled at one point, like, how good is a 150? I don't even know how good that is, but in golf it's like right there in your face. And it also doesn't tell you standard. That's right. And it also doesn't tell you that 99% of the planet can't shoot the standard. Okay. [00:09:43] Speaker B: That's right. [00:09:44] Speaker A: So I was thinking about this before. So again, I didn't think I was playing, but Tony texted me the night before and I found out we'll play on Wednesday. So I'm like all excited to play and I'm thinking through, okay, I gotta play smart. I haven't played Riverwood yet, and there's three nines. I don't know which nine we're going to be playing. And I'm kind of thinking through the whole course and how I would play it. And I just started kind of adjusting my par on holes. A little bit. And Tony's talked about this. I know where I said, okay, number, you know, on the, on the Deer side, number two, number four, number six, seven and eight. Those are good pars. If I can make par on that, then that's awesome. I'm probably not going to par all of them and I'd be really happy if I pared half of them. So I'm going to call par a half a shot over on those holes. And then I did that for all three nines. And it was so funny when I went back and added it up. My adjusted par combined for all the courses added up to be exactly the course rating from the tips. It was like 74 for Deer Meadow. It was like 74 for, you know, Deer river or whatever. It came out to be exact same thing. So I was like, oh, wait, if I just adjust my par on each hole and play according to what I consider my par to be and make par, then I'll shoot exactly 73, which would make me a scratch golfer. I should just do that, you know. But I think for every golfer, if you take that 400 yard hole and you say, okay, it's a. I've got to hit a really good driver to get it to within, you know, 175. And that's a five iron for me. And I don't really feel good with my five iron, but I have to hit a good five iron because that's the only way I'm going to get on the green because that's what the scorecard says I have to do. Then you're going to probably make six or seven or eight or something. But if you take that in reverse and say, okay, I feel really good about being able to hit a nine iron 130 yards, and if I can do that three times, I'm there, then you're gonna hit a shot you're very confident in three times and then two putt for a five. And if you do that all 18 holes, you're an 18 handicap, which is probably better than what you really are. Not Mike in particular. I'm just saying, whoever you are, there's a good chance that if that's the way you're playing a hole, you're probably a 25 handicap. Who would be an 18 if you played within your, your abilities. [00:11:52] Speaker B: Yep. And, and so two things to that. One, what does every golfer experience? They experience this phenomenon called the second ball pro. Right. That like you hit the first ball in the hazard. Ah, crap, you drop another ball immediately line it up Hit it again, and it's just perfect. Or that putt, that eight foot putt, you're like, oh, man, I missed it. And then you drop another ball. Bang, dead center of the hole. It's the second, second ball. Pro. So what does that tell us? There's a lot of stress and pressure on the first shot, the real shot, the one that counts. The skill, the ability is there. It's just the brain and the ego and the psychology gets in the way of our latent ability to perform. The second thing to that is this goes back to my childhood. Not childhood, high school. I didn't start playing golf till junior year of high school. And one of my good friends who lived down the street from us, her dad, who has passed away. And I shared this story at his funeral. They asked me to speak and I talked at this funeral. Melvin Jackson. And he took me to the golf course and was the first person to teach me anything about golf. And long story short, it's my second time playing golf and he sees me getting frustrated about my scores and he's like, what are you, what are you so upset about? I was like, well, success on the scorecard is a 4 or a 5 or a 3, and I'm making 6, 8, 10, whatever. And he looked me dead in the face and he said, son, don't ever let a piece of paper determine what success is in your life. Never let someone else's definition of what success is tell you what success is. And that stuck with me. And that's. That's been with me through my whole life. It's like, because everything is contextually based, everything is situational. Like, for Garrett and I to go out and shoot 72, 69, 68, 75, 77, that's success to us. That's what we feel like we can accomplish based off our skills, how much time, how much energy we've put into this game, getting fit for clubs, right? The dedication, choosing and playing. Garrett doesn't do this, but playing one brand of golf ball, one model of golf ball, one. One type of golf ball for all 18 holes, because that's the differentiator is this. It's this marginal thing, right? To get every square or every inch of talent you have out of it, every potential you have out of it. Whereas Mike, you play, you've played once in like two years. And it's like your standard of success is different. You have to redefine why you're doing this and what the goal is. [00:14:10] Speaker C: And. [00:14:10] Speaker B: And so many golfers just get, as Garrett said, Obsessed with the score. That's where I think the points based game is such a valuable tool because it's not about four or five. And I. Garrett, I even debated taking the whole, like, score what you score in the hall off the game. Just let it be about scoring points per shot for your skill level, for whatever capacity you have. You know what I mean? [00:14:31] Speaker A: Yeah, that's good. I like that. Well, it's good advice in general, period. But I think that's such a. Because there's times even on the golf course that, I mean, I'm kind of maybe going the opposite direction. I've always had some questionable decisions, but now some of the things that I'm doing are so conservative that some people might kind of question, well, why would you do that? You play your game. You know what I mean? Like, and if that's. I just think that that's what makes golf so frustrating. If you see you talk about the old man golf, right? These old men go out there, 80 years old, and they can't hit a ball more than 160 yards and they shoot 82. And you're telling me that you. Okay, so they can hit at 160 and they can shoot 82. You can hit it 210. You're telling me you can't break a hundred. You know what I mean? Like, if they can figure out a way to navigate that in that it's. It's not always necessary. And I'm just, I mean, I'm preaching totally to the choir here. I mean, this is. And really to myself more than anything. But just because you can do something, it doesn't mean that you got to. Got to make it harder than it has to be. And I think that's just something that think about how many times. I mean, if you just went out and played with nothing but a seven iron and a putter, a lot of people would score lower that way. Or, you know, pick one club and a putter and go out and play. And you'll be surprised at how close you'll come to beating your average or [00:15:47] Speaker B: beating it, provided they play the sensible shots. Because I guarantee you, like in the four club challenge that I've played in and maybe you'll play in at the Sierra. Garrett, the reason people shoot 95 and they're scratch golfers is because they're trying to do more than that club is capable of doing, right? And what did I tell you when I won it and I shot even par, whatever I shot, I think was even par, maybe one over I didn't let the situation change what I could do with that club. It was like this 54 degree is going to go max 105. So I'm going to hit it as far as I can, but I'm not going to make it be a forced carry. If it has to be 105 to carry, I just don't play the shot, I play it somewhere else and then get up and in for bogey or par, whatever the case may be. But too many people in golf let situations determine decisions versus saying because. Because they have it backwards, right? I've hit it in a hazard or I've hit it short, I mishit it. Now I've got to get it all back in this next shot. And it's like, no, you have to make the best decision that you can given the circumstance you're in and play within what you're capable of doing. [00:16:58] Speaker A: Yeah, that was probably one of my biggest sins in this game is that mindset is that I am ten times more likely to do something stupid after doing something stupid or after hitting a bad shot. I mean there's like a. And even the frustration level and everything. I mean some of these rounds that we've played lately where you know, we get aggravated with the lip outs and the. That's just golf and bad brakes and whatever. You know what, When I'm cruising along at even parents and I lip out a 20 footer, I don't care. I go tap it in and I'm happy with the par. But when I've just lipped out six putts from inside 10ft and hit three balls out of bounds and had one hazard ball that the wind got a hold of or whatever, then every 30 footer that doesn't go in, I'm pissed off. You know what I mean? It's like it compounds on it. But there is something that I had to think about this today. Even though we our let's play for score was short lived. I mean after I birdied 10 and part 11 or bogey 11, I was feeling pretty decent about being able to post at least a decent nine hole number until I made the eight on 12. And there's a, there was so much, I mean that was just pissed off and whatever that. Okay, well this is not going to be a good round now. But the thing is it doesn't change me being pissed off does not take four shots off of my card and put me back to even par where I was 10 minutes ago. Right. I have six more holes to play. The best that I can play and I can choose to shoot, you know, 38 with a great rally from here or 50, because I'm pissed off. But 32 is out of the question now, okay? Like, we. We moved past that with the ball that almost decapitated Tony. [00:18:33] Speaker C: So we're. [00:18:35] Speaker A: Let's do the best we can, what we have now, and that's just a hard thing to do and in a lot of different ways, I guess. [00:18:42] Speaker B: But that's. That's where the golf is such a mental game comes into play, and it's such a good reflection of life, right? Like, y' all both have kids. Kids fuss at each other. Siblings fuss at each other. There'll be days I pick my kids up from school and they're just. They're just, you know, whatever reason, it doesn't matter. Something will start them picking on each other. And I. I just. I'd be sitting there driving and be like, guys, we have a choice to make right now. We can either decide that whatever this thing is is going to ruin the rest of the day. Meaning when we get home, y' all ain't playing video games. We're not going to do XYZ fun stuff that y' all want to do. Y' all are each going to go to your rooms and you're just going to chill, you know, and you're going to think about things or whatever I said. Or we can decide that this situation here is not bigger than the rest of the day. It's not bigger than us having fun and enjoying each other's company because you guys love each other so much, right? Like, we are best buddies. I was like, sorry. I need y' all to just take 30 seconds and think about what's the big picture here, and is this. Whatever this is, is this really worth the next five hours of our evening ruined? And a lot of times they'll be like, whoa. But. And I'll be like, I'm. One more time. Think about it. You know, fine. You know, and then they're best friends for the rest of the day because they didn't let that situation, that tiny mistake or whatever, ruin the rest of the day. [00:20:07] Speaker A: I have a similar saying with my six year old I used to have with the older two, but I don't have to as much anymore. But now he's. He's so argumentative. I mean, he's. I don't know where he gets it from, but he is so stubborn. And he. He has never thought he was wrong in his life, but he will. [00:20:23] Speaker B: I gotta. I gotta I got an inclination, Mike, what do you think? I got an inclination where he might be getting up from. [00:20:28] Speaker C: I don't need a second guess. I know that [00:20:33] Speaker B: he will. [00:20:34] Speaker A: I'll tell him something and he'll say, but Daddy. And he'll butt daddy about three times. And I finally told him, like, if it's a serious thing and we're getting, you know, getting into it over it, I finally said, look, here's the deal. This is what's going to happen. We can either do this with a sore button, tears running down our mouth or face, or we can do it now and easy. But this is going to happen one way or the other. You can decide which option you're going to take. And sometimes it's like. And it's so funny every time I do that. He knows I'm telling the truth. And he knows it's a very valid and logical point. He also still can't quite make up his mind which path he's going to take because he's not 100% sure. It's not worth digging his heels in. And then he'll finally, you know, the second time it's like, okay, yeah, fine. But it's so reluctant that he does it, you know, that he does the right thing, but he's just doesn't. He still isn't happy about it. But we, even after we know it's the logically correct thing to do, we still don't like it and we've got to, like, suck it up. I swear, I wish I could carry around one of the Men in Black memory erasers. I want to know what a golfer's handicap would be if they could zap their short term memory after every shot. It would be incredible if you could just look at your ball and say, ooh, here's my ball. What should I do with it now? And you just look out there and you're like, oh, I see. Fairway. I think, think I'll try to hit it there from here. That's a good idea. You wouldn't think about what else had happened before that, you know. [00:21:52] Speaker B: Right. [00:21:52] Speaker A: Well. [00:21:53] Speaker B: And that's. And that's exactly right. Like, that's. That's one of the things. And that's what I think the whole points game concept that I'm trying to come up with is. Is. That's what it does, is it says, what's the best decision you can make from here forward, right? And like, one of the things about Tiger is people used to say, oh, Tiger was a hothead. He'd Curse. And, you know, and I was like, yeah, but notice what happened as soon as he got to his ball. [00:22:19] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:22:19] Speaker B: After that, whatever cursed out shot he just hit was. He was robot again. He was back to, okay, well, here I am. This is what I gotta do. And there was no more past. It was just present. Hit the shot I gotta hit. You know, so I, you know, you said this a long time ago, Garrett. You're like, I've decided I'm gonna be mad until I walk past this certain point of the fairway or whatever, and then I'm gonna move past it. So there's different ways to do that, obviously. And it's easier said than. All of this stuff is easier said than done. [00:22:49] Speaker A: Yeah, right. [00:22:49] Speaker B: It's way easy for me to tell Mike, hey, Mike, just hit the nine iron three times on the par four and make a two putt bogey versus the actual challenge of the ego of everyone's hitting driver. Why would I hit? You know, there's so much to that. But again, we forget that golf is not a one on one sport in the. In the sense that I'm going to try to do something to cause you not to perform well. Like, I can't guard you, I can't play defense, I can't throw a change up. I can't change audible at the line of scrimmage. You just have to do your thing and see what happens. That's just how the game works. [00:23:24] Speaker A: Yeah. I mean, and it's when, man, I don't want to go deep on this, but I mean, in a way, I can remember when I got divorced, I wasn't happy about the situation and it was like, you know, obviously this is like major life changing in a hundred different directions and all this stuff. And it's like. And nothing that happens in the future is going to change this fact. I mean, I could get remarried. I can. Things. Other things can change, but nothing's going to change this particular event. Like, this has happened and it's going to. But I still have a decision in the 50 or so years I have left on this planet to either wallow in this or go on with my life and do whatever else comes next from here. This is what it is. You can't do anything about it. And same way on the golf course every. I. I'm. I don't like to lay up, period. I sure as hell don't like to lay up when it's my fourth shot on a par four, you know, but it. That still, it's. It's still Better than an eight, you know, or, or whatever the case may be. And sometimes, I mean, there it's, I, I, I, I think I wrote it on my scorecard one time that, you know, your scores are written in pencil technically most of the time, but they're technically a magic marker. Nothing that you do moving forward is going to change the six that you had on the first hole or whatever you can, that you've got the holes that you've got in front of you to do something with it. And it's just, I don't know why it's so damn hard though. I really don't know why it's so hard to logically know the correct way to think and still not be able to make yourself do it when you're out there. Because when you're out there, all you think about, you know, I don't think I have a terrible long term memory with it. I don't think I'm still, you know, letting the third hole linger on the 10th. But I'm definitely thinking about the last shot or the last hole when it doesn't go my way. That one. [00:25:05] Speaker B: Well, think, think about scoring milestones. Literally, people say, I want to break a hundred, I wanna break 90, I wanna break 80, I wanna break 70. What's the difference between 69 and 70? One shot. What's the difference between 89 and 90? One shot, you know, and very easily can people start to go back through and be like, oh yeah, I didn't line up that two footer, I missed that. Oh yeah, I tried to hit the hero shot here and I left it fat in the water when I could have just safely got it on the green. And then they're like, God, that, that's the one shot. You know, so that's the infuriating thing about it. And it's like, if you just have a little more discipline, then you can, or a little more wherewithal or whatever. And then again, that's where the huge advantage of the caddy comes in. In recreational golf, if you have a golf private country club with caddies or, and you have a good relationship with the cat, trust them. It's not just there someone to carry your bag and make you laugh. But the reason these PGA LPGA Tour caddie relationships last for decades and they have this success is because there is that trust there, that, that relationship of I'm going to talk this person off a ledge when they're about to make a dumb decision. Right? Something like that. Yeah, it's, it's so valuable that relationship, in many respects, the professional tours, you could almost think of as a team game. It's the golfer and their caddy versus. [00:26:24] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:26:25] Speaker B: Everybody else. So the golf course, whatever. [00:26:27] Speaker A: Yeah, well, and even in the, in the trifecta, you know, the. When that guy chips in, nothing you're going to do is going to take that shot back off the board. Nothing that you can't control what your opponent does either. When you're in that type of. Most of the time, I mean, 99 of the rounds that most people play are not in that type of a setting where you're in a, you know, competition. But even if you're a competition with your buddy or Saturday morning gangster or whatever, God. Puts a 68 on you, got. Puts a 68 on you. Ain't nothing you can do about that. You know what it happens and it's just be happy for them maybe is the best thing you can try to do, unless it's somebody you just hate. But I mean, Justin Stahl beat me at the Ryder cup, the Solis cup last year, you know, and I beat him pretty good in the two team events. And then we played the one on one and he beat me. And I wanted to beat him so bad I couldn't see straight. But at the same time, man, he was pumped and he was happy for it. You know, he was, he was excited for it and I was happy for him. You know, in a way, I wanted to shut him out, but I also didn't want to do that to the boy either. He's a nice guy, you know, but you can, you know, your opponent's a human too. Don't, don't hate him for playing. Good on it, you know, don't hate him. [00:27:36] Speaker B: He's probably one of the 20 listeners that we have. [00:27:39] Speaker A: I hope so. If not, we're down to 19 because he used to be one. But, but no, I mean, sorry, you [00:27:45] Speaker B: were, you were going to ask Mike a question a while back, probably two or three minutes ago. [00:27:49] Speaker A: What was it? [00:27:51] Speaker B: I don't know. It had to be something. [00:27:54] Speaker A: Oh, I know what it was. I was telling Tony today, we got to get you playing, man. Like we, we. We've. Yeah, we've decided right now it's time for you to start playing more golf. I'm. Well, I'. I think Tony agrees. We gotta get you playing. [00:28:07] Speaker C: Yeah, man. Well, it's funny because I was, I was like, I need to go out and play with you guys because you, you talk all this stuff and you need to. I need, I need your Help. [00:28:17] Speaker B: So trying to coordinate three schedules is going to be quite the task. But we're happy to do it. [00:28:22] Speaker C: Obviously we want you to come Tuesdays and Thursdays. Tuesdays and Thursdays. [00:28:27] Speaker A: I'll play every Thursday. Every other Thursday. [00:28:30] Speaker B: Well, listen, the real challenge is going to be me and you. Schedules. Garrett's always on the golf course. He's playing. [00:28:37] Speaker A: Yeah, I'll be there. You just tell me which course. [00:28:40] Speaker B: I'll be there. [00:28:41] Speaker A: Have I ever turned you down, Tony, when you've asked me to play? I think there might have been one time that I was like, I can't. I got something going on. But I feel like every time you text me, it might have been 8:30 the night before. Can you play tomorrow at 9:15? Yep. Be there. [00:28:52] Speaker B: Gotcha. I'm here now. [00:28:59] Speaker A: When I was a kid, some, A real good friend of mine still tells me that I was known as the kid at Solid Run. That was the end of the golf course I grew up playing. That was Solid Run. And he's like, for the longest time I didn't know your name. Everybody just knew you as the kid from Silo because you were there all day long, like every single day. Nobody knew who you were really, but you were just always on the putting green or always on the driving range. And I was like, yep, that's me. [00:29:21] Speaker B: But that's me. [00:29:22] Speaker A: That's my happy place. [00:29:23] Speaker B: Well, yeah, we'll, we'll get Mike out there and you know, I love to, to ride in the cart with you and just talk you through shots and give you confidence and help you to see things in a different light or whatever. And I, I, you know, it's one of those things where a good caddy or a good coach can almost guarantee you they'll save you at least five shots around just because they will be like, why, why would you try to hit this shot? I've seen you on the driving race. You got no business doing this. You're better off just chipping a three wood, you know, or a long 100 yard punch. Three wood or something like that. Well, that's not fun. Well, do you want to put it in the water? Do you want to keep this ball in play? Right, like so you have to define again, are you there for fun? To hit some really fun, challenging shots? Are you there for score? Are you there for a mixture? What is it? And always be mentally reframing back towards what are you here for? [00:30:13] Speaker A: Okay, well, and back to the trifecta too. [00:30:17] Speaker B: Because if you, yeah, if you say, oh, I'm just here to have fun. Then as soon as you start to get pissy about the shot that you topped or whatever, I'm going to be like, doesn't look like you're having fun, Mike. What you doing? [00:30:27] Speaker A: This doesn't look fun. [00:30:29] Speaker B: Yeah. And if you tell me I'm here to shoot the best score with the skills I have right now, presently, then when you tell me you're going to hit this driver and you've cold topped them on the range, I'm like, you ain't hit. I'm break this driver. [00:30:41] Speaker A: Right. [00:30:41] Speaker B: That's not the score. Right? [00:30:42] Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah. [00:30:43] Speaker B: Are you going to try to take this 200 yard shot over the water when there's 150 yards of fairway left? We ain't doing that. Yeah. Defining goals, defining expectations, defining what it is that you came there to do. [00:30:56] Speaker A: And one last little memory from the trifecta, two on that is that there are two. Two different examples kind of from different sides of the coin. So sometimes the, you know, if you say, what's the purpose? Or whatever, sometimes the purpose might be that you're going to take a try a risky shot. Two examples. Number three on meadow. You were in play. I had decided I was going to try to. If you were in play, I was going to try to hit driver over the. Look, when we say 70% rule, I couldn't hit that shot one time out of 70, I don't think. [00:31:26] Speaker B: No. But it's literally a one in a million shot. [00:31:29] Speaker A: But you were in as good a shape as you could be in. So I grabbed a ball that I didn't care to lose and I took my best shot and I never saw it again. I never even really watched to see where it landed. It was so far off. It was no close. Okay. And I wasn't mad about that shot. It was one of those things. It was like, yeah, whatever. But at the same time, flip side of that number 12. 13. It was on river. I think it was. Yeah. So it was in the best ball portion. I just made bogey on 11. I think you had pard 12. We had kind of. Our hopes of. Of going really low had kind of drifted on us. We got off to a good start, but then we made a couple of pars and we had to really rally from there to put a good number up. And I remember asking for permission. Can I hit driver? [00:32:11] Speaker B: Yes. Try to cover the creek. Yeah. [00:32:13] Speaker A: Yeah. Because it was only. It was like a 275 carry. I think it was downwind. I felt pretty decent That I could get it. I knew I could get it across. I wasn't sure if I could keep it out of the river. That was my main concern. And it's pretty tight on the other side. You got cart path left and trouble left. So that was one of those things where it was not the statistically smart play in the situation we were in. Is fourth any better than fifth, really? I mean, it kind of is, I guess, technically, but we're. We're trying to do what we can. I hit a good shot there, but that's one of those shots. If you're going to pull that club, you got to be willing to accept the fact that, hey, this is a 1 in 10, 2 in 10, whatever. I'm doing it because I'm desperate. If it doesn't go well, I can't be surprised by that. It might be the right decision for the situation. [00:32:55] Speaker B: That's right. [00:32:56] Speaker A: But that doesn't mean you get to be pissed off because you don't pull it off, because it was still a long shot to start with. You know, Valdosta State can't be that mad when they don't get. When they don't beat Duke in the first round of the tournament. You know what I mean? It was a long shot that you were going to in the first place. [00:33:12] Speaker B: So you go ask out the supermodel. You don't expect to get a date, but if she says yes, you're like, hey, all right, then. And if you get shot down, you're like, that's par for the course. That's what I expected. You don't study for the exam and you make a 70. You're like, woohoo. But you make a 50, and you're like, well, that's about what I figured, you know? [00:33:33] Speaker A: So, yeah, I've never asked anybody out that I thought was going to say yes. That's just part of the fun for me. [00:33:41] Speaker B: There you go. [00:33:42] Speaker A: If I think they're gonna say yes, then I'm not interested. But anyway, and that's why I'm single. So maybe. Maybe there's a correlation there. Well, enjoyed it, guys, as always. Thanks. That's it. Oh, by the way, I need to get this in on every episode. I keep forgetting to do this. If you're watching us, all four of you must already be subscribed, but if you happen to not be subscribed to the channel and you're watching this long, please subscribe. Like the video, follow the podcast, do whatever you do on the platform you're on. So that maybe we can get a sixth or seventh listener back here in the. In the next few episodes. 6, 7, 8. You know, I don't know. Even though even trying not to do it, you still can't help but do it. I think I do it more now. Not even meaning to, but we need to get up in double digits, so we don't have that thread anymore, but. Love you guys. See y'. [00:34:32] Speaker C: All. Love you, man. [00:34:34] Speaker B: Peace. [00:34:35] Speaker C: See you next time. [00:34:38] Speaker B: For six, seven months at a. Damn it. They don't touch their clothes for five [00:34:43] Speaker A: or six months at a time.